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		<title>By: jimmythegent</title>
		<link>http://www.dexysden.com/2009/09/a-level-playing-field/comment-page-2/#comment-19146</link>
		<dc:creator>jimmythegent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree withe Dunne incident, it was a very difficult decision to make for the ref. City back on the box tonight against Dexy&#039;s Hammers, sorry Dexy, 2-0 to the Blues and hopefully, another game full of incident. West Ham could be in trouble if they don&#039;t pick up some points soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree withe Dunne incident, it was a very difficult decision to make for the ref. City back on the box tonight against Dexy&#8217;s Hammers, sorry Dexy, 2-0 to the Blues and hopefully, another game full of incident. West Ham could be in trouble if they don&#8217;t pick up some points soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alright Darren, I think that the Cech sending off was pretty clear cut.  His left boot caught Rodellega&#039;s right boot fairly full on and he would&#039;ve scored had he not been brought down so I&#039;d say the ref had little choice.  There weren&#039;t any huge complaints from the Chelsea players and for me that is an indicator that it was a fairly easy decision for the ref to make.  I was really surprised how well Wigan played and it&#039;s good to see them finally get a result against one of the Big 4.  I think Martinez could be crafting a decent side.  As for Chelsea, I&#039;d say that&#039;s a minor blip but next weekend is going to be a tough one.

Matt, regarding di Santo and Dunne, I thought that was a pretty difficult one to give.  On the one hand the ball has travelled almost no distance and he couldn&#039;t exactly move his hands out of the way, but on the other hand you could argue his hands shouldn&#039;t have been up that high in the first place.  There are arguments both ways and if it hadn&#039;t been given there would&#039;ve been questions asked just as there are since it was given.  As for dangerous play, yeah, that&#039;s another element that could be argued.  I think di Santo is entitled to go for the overhead kick as he clearly controlled the ball with that in mind and Dunne is moving towards him rather than the other way round.  However, you can&#039;t really say there&#039;s a huge amount of bias involved as it there are definitely arguments for an against giving it rather than it being a clearly terribly decision.  Don&#039;t forget the ref had previously sent off Grella so it&#039;s not like he was favouring Blackburn in any way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alright Darren, I think that the Cech sending off was pretty clear cut.  His left boot caught Rodellega&#8217;s right boot fairly full on and he would&#8217;ve scored had he not been brought down so I&#8217;d say the ref had little choice.  There weren&#8217;t any huge complaints from the Chelsea players and for me that is an indicator that it was a fairly easy decision for the ref to make.  I was really surprised how well Wigan played and it&#8217;s good to see them finally get a result against one of the Big 4.  I think Martinez could be crafting a decent side.  As for Chelsea, I&#8217;d say that&#8217;s a minor blip but next weekend is going to be a tough one.</p>
<p>Matt, regarding di Santo and Dunne, I thought that was a pretty difficult one to give.  On the one hand the ball has travelled almost no distance and he couldn&#8217;t exactly move his hands out of the way, but on the other hand you could argue his hands shouldn&#8217;t have been up that high in the first place.  There are arguments both ways and if it hadn&#8217;t been given there would&#8217;ve been questions asked just as there are since it was given.  As for dangerous play, yeah, that&#8217;s another element that could be argued.  I think di Santo is entitled to go for the overhead kick as he clearly controlled the ball with that in mind and Dunne is moving towards him rather than the other way round.  However, you can&#8217;t really say there&#8217;s a huge amount of bias involved as it there are definitely arguments for an against giving it rather than it being a clearly terribly decision.  Don&#8217;t forget the ref had previously sent off Grella so it&#8217;s not like he was favouring Blackburn in any way.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Quinn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Quinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 13:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or do you remember this, Simon?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-489051/Clattenburg-given-time-poor-officiating-following-Merseyside-derby-fiasco.html

Mark Clatternburg given a one match ban for poor performance after sending off 2 Everton players and giving 2 penalties to Liverpool in Merseyside derby</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or do you remember this, Simon?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-489051/Clattenburg-given-time-poor-officiating-following-Merseyside-derby-fiasco.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-489051/Clattenburg-given-time-poor-officiating-following-Merseyside-derby-fiasco.html</a></p>
<p>Mark Clatternburg given a one match ban for poor performance after sending off 2 Everton players and giving 2 penalties to Liverpool in Merseyside derby</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Quinn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Quinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 13:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ps. Simon- remember this game???

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/liverpool/article5084632.ece

I particularly like the quote about how Liverpool&#039;s late penalty against Atletico &quot;proved to be a perpetuation of two Merseyside myths: the dubious late penalty at the Kop End....&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ps. Simon- remember this game???</p>
<p><a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/liverpool/article5084632.ece" rel="nofollow">http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/liverpool/article5084632.ece</a></p>
<p>I particularly like the quote about how Liverpool&#8217;s late penalty against Atletico &#8220;proved to be a perpetuation of two Merseyside myths: the dubious late penalty at the Kop End&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Quinn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Quinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 13:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God! Simon! I finally got round to reading your comments about United. You dont half fit snuggly into the Liverpudlian stereotype! Oh woe is the scousers! Hard done by! United getting all the breaks! Load of rubbish tho, really.

I think you will find that most of the country think the same about your lot. If Stevie G ever gos to ground... all he has to do is look at a ref to get a free-kick or penalty.

You also mention the Villa game this year, when Villa were given a &quot;dodgy penalty&quot;. I think it was possibly THE most clear cut, stone-wall penalty ive ever seen. Even a one-eyed ref in front of the Kop had to give the decision.... but i suppose that you failed to see the incident in this light as the foul was committed by Stevie G. God! Even Rafa admitted it was a blatant penalty... so, in light of this, i have to ignore your ramblings and &quot;evidence&quot; of United bias.

Ps. You also fail to mention the Cantona ban, the Ferdinand ban etc.... examples of when decisions went against United.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God! Simon! I finally got round to reading your comments about United. You dont half fit snuggly into the Liverpudlian stereotype! Oh woe is the scousers! Hard done by! United getting all the breaks! Load of rubbish tho, really.</p>
<p>I think you will find that most of the country think the same about your lot. If Stevie G ever gos to ground&#8230; all he has to do is look at a ref to get a free-kick or penalty.</p>
<p>You also mention the Villa game this year, when Villa were given a &#8220;dodgy penalty&#8221;. I think it was possibly THE most clear cut, stone-wall penalty ive ever seen. Even a one-eyed ref in front of the Kop had to give the decision&#8230;. but i suppose that you failed to see the incident in this light as the foul was committed by Stevie G. God! Even Rafa admitted it was a blatant penalty&#8230; so, in light of this, i have to ignore your ramblings and &#8220;evidence&#8221; of United bias.</p>
<p>Ps. You also fail to mention the Cantona ban, the Ferdinand ban etc&#8230;. examples of when decisions went against United.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Quinn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Quinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 10:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the dodgy last minute penalty that Blackburn were awarded in the last few mins against Villa this weekend? Was it not dangerous play by Di Santo and Dunne was just protecting his face???

Can you imagine the uproar from these boards if Man Utd had been awarded the same penalty with 3mins of the game to go with a match tied at 1-1? Imagine the media spotlight!!! Imagine the debate!!! I guess noone really cares when a controversial decision happens outside the top 4 tho!!!

Or is it that Di Santo actually still plays for Chelsea?? Hence the bias??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the dodgy last minute penalty that Blackburn were awarded in the last few mins against Villa this weekend? Was it not dangerous play by Di Santo and Dunne was just protecting his face???</p>
<p>Can you imagine the uproar from these boards if Man Utd had been awarded the same penalty with 3mins of the game to go with a match tied at 1-1? Imagine the media spotlight!!! Imagine the debate!!! I guess noone really cares when a controversial decision happens outside the top 4 tho!!!</p>
<p>Or is it that Di Santo actually still plays for Chelsea?? Hence the bias??</p>
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		<title>By: Darren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 23:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this blog is now our record blog for words and comments.

Great work Patrick for raising such debate! Well done to all involved.

Patrick, so what did u make of the Cech sending off then?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this blog is now our record blog for words and comments.</p>
<p>Great work Patrick for raising such debate! Well done to all involved.</p>
<p>Patrick, so what did u make of the Cech sending off then?</p>
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		<title>By: dexylongshot</title>
		<link>http://www.dexysden.com/2009/09/a-level-playing-field/comment-page-2/#comment-19093</link>
		<dc:creator>dexylongshot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 17:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Effing Nora, well done chaps for getting really getting involved in this blog, I can&#039;t honestly think of a more hottly disputed debate, there are some excellent opinions on your here, there would be no Den without you lot (wipes a moist tear from under the shades).

Keep it up

Dexy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Effing Nora, well done chaps for getting really getting involved in this blog, I can&#8217;t honestly think of a more hottly disputed debate, there are some excellent opinions on your here, there would be no Den without you lot (wipes a moist tear from under the shades).</p>
<p>Keep it up</p>
<p>Dexy</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 17:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam, I don&#039;t hate the top 4.  I hate the way decisions always go their way.  All clubs benefit from poor officiating from time to time but with the top 4 and particularly United it is season after season, numerous times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam, I don&#8217;t hate the top 4.  I hate the way decisions always go their way.  All clubs benefit from poor officiating from time to time but with the top 4 and particularly United it is season after season, numerous times.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 13:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Incidentally; I DO think United recieve assistance to truly obscene levels of benefit and help in the league from such ‘decisions’/&#039;Friendly refs&#039; as those being argued over here; In case you hadn’t guessed from my other post; And yes it IS so blatant but what can be done about it? And I mean in ALL clubs cases but ESPECIALLY United’s.  It’s so blatant and clear that they benefit from such decisions AND that the odds are so skewed in their favour due to respect/fear/intimidation of referees over the years (since 1993 funnily enough it hardly happened with them before then, wonder wh…..ah yes, the Premier League was established then wasn’t it? I see it all now) but it’s like both the FA and the PGMOB (Professional Game Match Officials Board – the REAL power behind referees in the Premier League) either don’t want to sort the problem out as they’re afraid of United or (more likely) that in conjunction with United they’re working to some pre-arranged plan (ala Luciano Moggi in Serie A until he was caught) and couldn’t care less what the fans/world at large think so effectively they’re sticking two fingers up at them by arrogantly ignoring everyone and their complaints about United as they do their utmost to remove any element of &#039;competition&#039; in the game;  Genuine competition to their aims is NOT what United want at all is it?.  How to change all this? Who knows, maybe more Rafa style rants will work but who would dare take on the establishment as Rafa’ did? One thing’s for sure – expect United to keep winning trophies as long as this biased flow of decisions continues – It’s a bit hard NOT to win isn’t it? Or at least it is when the referees and authorities continue to give you a handy lift to the finishing line season in, season out. 

I often wonder how well Ferguson’s United would do without this assistance as I mentioned above (to get the answer look at the years 1987 – 1992 in the Fergie reign at OT – they weren’t that impressive no?) and I think the answer is they’d be nothing LIKE as good as they are seen to be now but since they rely on such decisions so much – it will be a cold day in hell before THEY stop them happening and no-one else has the guts to take them on enough to stop it.  I think that makes them little more than cowards and they know it – why else would they be so defensive whenever tackled about it? (Look at Fergies reaction to Rafa’s rant if you don’t believe me – he didn’t know WHAT to say and then A:) denied it and B:) TRIED (and failed miserably) to mock Rafa’ - He ended up looking the pathetic old man he can be now at times in the process; Still one day, there WILL be a reckoning for United, when Fergies goes – god will they have trouble then because then they WILL be exposed for what they are and when they are, you can kiss goodbye to United’s artificially assisted and manufactured so called ‘dominance’ of the game – it will be gone within a heartbeat – just like Fergie and his influence – At present, it’s clear that the sooner that day comes, the better for English football as a whole and it really CAN’T come quick enough can it?…………………</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Incidentally; I DO think United recieve assistance to truly obscene levels of benefit and help in the league from such ‘decisions’/&#8217;Friendly refs&#8217; as those being argued over here; In case you hadn’t guessed from my other post; And yes it IS so blatant but what can be done about it? And I mean in ALL clubs cases but ESPECIALLY United’s.  It’s so blatant and clear that they benefit from such decisions AND that the odds are so skewed in their favour due to respect/fear/intimidation of referees over the years (since 1993 funnily enough it hardly happened with them before then, wonder wh…..ah yes, the Premier League was established then wasn’t it? I see it all now) but it’s like both the FA and the PGMOB (Professional Game Match Officials Board – the REAL power behind referees in the Premier League) either don’t want to sort the problem out as they’re afraid of United or (more likely) that in conjunction with United they’re working to some pre-arranged plan (ala Luciano Moggi in Serie A until he was caught) and couldn’t care less what the fans/world at large think so effectively they’re sticking two fingers up at them by arrogantly ignoring everyone and their complaints about United as they do their utmost to remove any element of &#8216;competition&#8217; in the game;  Genuine competition to their aims is NOT what United want at all is it?.  How to change all this? Who knows, maybe more Rafa style rants will work but who would dare take on the establishment as Rafa’ did? One thing’s for sure – expect United to keep winning trophies as long as this biased flow of decisions continues – It’s a bit hard NOT to win isn’t it? Or at least it is when the referees and authorities continue to give you a handy lift to the finishing line season in, season out. </p>
<p>I often wonder how well Ferguson’s United would do without this assistance as I mentioned above (to get the answer look at the years 1987 – 1992 in the Fergie reign at OT – they weren’t that impressive no?) and I think the answer is they’d be nothing LIKE as good as they are seen to be now but since they rely on such decisions so much – it will be a cold day in hell before THEY stop them happening and no-one else has the guts to take them on enough to stop it.  I think that makes them little more than cowards and they know it – why else would they be so defensive whenever tackled about it? (Look at Fergies reaction to Rafa’s rant if you don’t believe me – he didn’t know WHAT to say and then A:) denied it and B:) TRIED (and failed miserably) to mock Rafa’ &#8211; He ended up looking the pathetic old man he can be now at times in the process; Still one day, there WILL be a reckoning for United, when Fergies goes – god will they have trouble then because then they WILL be exposed for what they are and when they are, you can kiss goodbye to United’s artificially assisted and manufactured so called ‘dominance’ of the game – it will be gone within a heartbeat – just like Fergie and his influence – At present, it’s clear that the sooner that day comes, the better for English football as a whole and it really CAN’T come quick enough can it?…………………</p>
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